Our work in the 1980s on Cities and Their Vital Systems with Robert Herman, Cesare Marchetti, Alvin Weinberg, Brian Arthur, Nebojsa Nakicenovic and others seems to have acquired cult status, and caused Jesse’s inclusion in a video podcast (high and low bandwidth) to introduce the 8 February 2008 special issue of Science magazine dedicated to cities.The issue also includes an article by Paul Grant on Chauncey Starr’s concept of the supergrid for joint distribution of hydrogen and electricity.